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Written 9 months 1 day ago
I Totally agree with *user_not_found* , removing the achievements is no fun and it also effects regular innocent users, punish the spammers, not everybody!
Written 9 months 1 day ago
I suggest admins and mods just keep a closer eye on users they believe to be "spamming", and warn them effectively. If it's possible even deduct from their "post count" after a couple warnings, or even a temporary demotion to a rank without posting permissions. Admins and mods will have to be on their toes a little more, but if you want to solve a complex problem like this you need to put the work in. The reason they were implemented, I believe, was to stimulate activity in both the forums and tagging. However, given the achievement-whores that are in wallbase right now, it's getting quite out of hand. So far, admins DO warn users that aim for achievements, but all they can do is repetitively warn and reverse their actions (i.e., delete a post or remove a tag). Unfortunately, unless v4 brings good luck, admins cannot ban. A like/dislike system would be chaotic, since there would be some "YOU DIDN'T LIKE MY POST, F*CK YOU, I HOPE YOU DIE!" shitstorms imminent.
Written 9 months 1 day ago
So, like may times before same things are being repeted over and over again without anything happening. The thread is getting kinda pointless. In conclusion, we can only wait for Wallbase v4 to bring more power to Admins and mods who shall implement theese punishements bans and deductions to the "trolls, spammers & out of control achievement chasers".
So, like may times before same things are being repeted over and over again without anything happening. The thread is getting kinda pointless. In conclusion, we can only wait for Wallbase v4 to bring more power to Admins and mods who shall implement theese punishements bans and deductions to the "trolls, spammers & out of control achievement chasers". I think you're missing the point of the thread. It's not about suggesting admins get more power. It's about cutting forum achievements down to something simple, or cutting them out completely, since it's starting to turn into topic-spam bait. EDIT: This was not specifically suggested before, and, after all, this IS the Ideas/Suggestions/Feature requests forum, so this is my idea or suggestion.
Written 9 months 1 day ago
Maybe an 'Thanks' system would do it.
If you find the post helpful/useful -> You (can) thank the author of said post. Otherwise -> Nothing happens. Then the achievements could measure one's helpfulness (does that word exist?). An example is the reputation counter on SPUF. 
In way of a final opinion, the fact, is that despite not being exactly a rookie in forum matters, this one and exactly on the account of the achievements point of view and characteristics inherent to some topics, gave me an illusory idea of legitimacy and even of incentive, to post without criteria or a specific interest orientation. The thing is that, we get carried away and soon enough, end up believing that we are always right and it's the others who are the spammers.
I told it before and I really believe that these forums are doomed, because of their own characteristics. The way they are conceived... and the achievements process, is right in the center of the problem... are a lure or decoy for spammers and non spammers, spamming even without being aware of that fact. Some years of internet, already, tell me that forums are way better without major incentives to posting. People end up always abusing somehow and confronting themselves sooner or later... and retaliations, or penalties, just serve to stoke the fire and create more conflicts. So...the "Forum Post Count Achievements" are a deceiving feature and/or a decoy... through my perspective and again, based on some experience... should be simply eliminated. Substituting or reducing them, would not resolve the problem, or even minimize it... not for long, simply because, there are no such thing as half spam, or, in a more generic way of speaking, half problems. There... I hope to have been more clear this once... despite still not very concise, I'm afraid. Cheers !...
Written 9 months 1 day ago
Hi everyone typing walls of text (tl;dr). I just wanted to stop by and say that I already decided to discuss this with yotoon when he gets back from wherever he might be. I always felt that the achievement system was something on the level of testicle kissing ever since the beginning and I would be very happy to see it removed. That would be the best thing to do for wallbase health.
We'll come to a solution, trust us. God bless America.
Written 9 months 1 day ago
Finally, that is good news, an official response from the Head Honcho.
Written 9 months 1 day ago
I agree with
 SenZzy on this. The achievement system was put forth to encourage participation. Instead a few achievement whores have played havoc with it and are endangering the quality standards of wallbase by posting everything they come across, whether it be gifs in the WaTD thread or heavily bookmarked porno in the uploads, not to leave out upscales and other hacks to bypass the dupe bot.All things considered, the achievement system should be temporarily suspended, if not totally removed, until the admins get the powers to ban achievement whores.
Written 9 months 1 day ago
Finally, that is good news, an official response from the Head Honcho. Not quite. Senzzy and I were on the same footing this whole time. However, Yotoon is still hiding under a rock, to be honest, and most probably will for a long time. I agree with you have a problem? to people who have a lot of Achivements? (Do not speak of these as posts) you have a problem? to people who have a lot of Achivements? (Do not speak of these as posts) Let me also add at this point, that we are strongly considering requesting Yotoon to exclude posts in Offtopic sections from forum post achievements.
I'd say this is what they mean ^ (was meant for yuasa, just saying)
2 posts for what could have easily been 1, and both in a bold font. I don't think that the achievements should be removed in it's entirety, just reworked. The community has been a lot more active since the introduction of the achievements. I just think that achievements should promote quality content instead of spamming content I.E get achievement for X amount of faves on a single wall instead of uploading 200.000 crap walls and sets. I feel that the achievements for the forum post count can easily be removed because there already was a system in place for post count.
I Assumed this would happen but i'm glad i got to say what i had to say to the person who needed to hear it.
Sooooooo, the forum post achievemnt will be suspnded or something? Cool. I'm ok with that. Oh, i love the thought  spraayer presended, to have a 500 faves on one wall achievement or something inseatd of a bilion crap walls, nice idea. |
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