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Written 11 months 3 days ago
Hi all. so first please don't blame me about my english (I'm french)
So recently I get an idea about tag to help wallpaper to get better tag and more tag. That could be great (I think) to create tagging area with all wallpaper with 1 or 2 tag only everybody could see wall with low tag and add tag to help in search (that will help to Busing bee too) we will see all wallpaper with 1 or 2 tag when we will end to tag all we will see wallpaper with 3 or 4 tag... idea is show wallpaper with lowest tag or low view because if 15 tag and 2 view that's maybe because tag are not correct for the pic that could be nice to can filter (low see and low tag) to add more and better tag thanks a lot everybody to read me, hope you understand me and my idea Cordially Djmadman
Written 11 months 3 days ago
Bit confused. Is your idea to have a separate page where only images with one or two tags show up?
Written 11 months 3 days ago
yes and no
create a part on wallbase (or a filter in search) to show only wallpapaper with lowest tag and another filter with lowest view in search you can select some possibility that could be nice to add 2 filter (lowest tag) to help for tagging and another (lowest view) to change bad tag and help wallpaper to get more view
Written 11 months 3 days ago
create a part on wallbase (or a filter in search) to show only wallpapaper with lowest tag and another filter with lowest view
Written 11 months 3 days ago
I Have a feeling that very soon an Admin will come to this thread and say it's too much work.... I Don't have any special thoughts abuot this idea....
Written 11 months 3 days ago
This idea has been put forward before and rejected, I think it was something to do with the fear it would cause spam.
personally I don't think your idea would work as good tagging isn't necessarily related to the number of tags, so a wall could be perfectly described in 3 tags and another in 30 depending on the content.
In my opinion creating a new menu(for the walls that don't have tags or barely have) would be a waste of time and space.
The view-count can be listed from the current filter. Regarding your tag idea, it's not good but also it's not bad, but I will transform it into this: Make a new option like in the attachment(E.G.: "search: tag:none/few") this could actually solve it for the so-called tag-lovers, otherwise making a new menu for walls with less/or zero tags is simply a waste of time.
Written 11 months 3 days ago
alternatively make it possible to search tagme, that way all the untagged 4chan wallpapers at the top. I have no idea why it is currently blocked
Written 11 months 3 days ago
yes why not but that could be nice yes because I like tag wall but if its a wall with already 10 or more its not necessary that's why I said that
Written 11 months 2 days ago
I would love to get some tool to get wallpapers that have not yet been tagged !
Written 11 months 2 days ago
I would love to get some tool to get wallpapers that have not yet been tagged ! Maybe for mods and Admins, if it was given to everyone, a flood of spam would most likely be created.... A High abuse risk!!!
Written 11 months 2 days ago
why spam? same risk without any wallpaper I can flood with 50 tag any wallpaper this tool will be here only to help to tag only 1 bad possibility. people could upload with only 1 tag and think other will tag but I dont understand why spam
Written 10 months 3 weeks ago
Some things to report, most of which probably bridge the bug report / feature request disparity:
is probably the most abused tag I've seen so far. I just untagged easily 40 or 50 images of just one woman who clearly doesn't have blonde hair. I assume and follow closely. A major source of ambiguity seems to occur where one or all of a few criteria are in effect: capitalization, punctuation, plurality, regional spelling examples: Phantom ~Requiem for the Phantom~ and Phantom - Requiem for the Phantom are both valid, and "Phantom: Requiem for the Phantom" also makes sense, but they still all likely introduce confusion. exists but refers to the planet, not the element "earth". How will we handle the ambiguity in such cases? musician These obviously need merged. Not only do such instances cause confusion in filtering for the searcher, but for the submitter, who we risk causing enough frustration to simply not tag. These need at least linked and there's no reason for the U.S. spelling to be capitalized. other/related issues: and represent two somewhat distinct concepts. Yet for users, especially non-native speakers of English, this definition might not be clear. (see below about glossary) To the entire world: Not all are . Thank you. One other major issue is in cases where tags which are often neglected because they are more generic, as in the case of many anime images where the anime title and a character name are present, but the tag is missing, of all things. Please don't neglect the obvious when it comes to tagging, folks. On that note, I wonder if it'd be feasible for there to be triggering of parent tags, at least conditionally, asking the tagger if the triggered tags are valid before applying them, and allowing the user to interface with this recommendation via a small table or list with checkboxes and information about each triggered tag, so that the decision is a well-informed one, and not one "off the cuff". I would recommend implementing, when possible, a lightweight glossary or encyclopedia of the tags to explain to site users just what they are describing by using them. You could highlight the reasoning used and feature a core ruleset for tagging, explaining how to best avoid inaccuracy and subjectivity, and provide examples. This would help alleviate some of the frustrations that I've shared. What tag info is available has more to do with site statistics than metadata and semantics. This could remedy that problem as well. If an image doesn't have many tags, and I'm viewing its page with the metainfo sidebar visible, its default state, the "more" option is hidden, which is where i typically would navigate to add tags. This leads to difficulty in quickly adding tags. Also, when it is collapsed, this option is poorly placed. Further, at some point I'd like to see some sort of way for bulk tagging and revision to be done, primarily to eradicate issues like the aforementioned abuse of the blonde tag where a whole portfolio of images of a person is present. The thumbnail tooltip menu is okay for a few images, but is too clunky and inefficient past three or four images. Quality of interface is probably the primary reason I haven't done more tagging than I have. Lastly, tag categories are lacking and often tags are improperly placed in them. In effect, categories in their current state are broken. I do hope that members who are responsible are given the ability to manage them eventually.
Not to be overly pedantic, but it may well be very important if they're poorly tagged. Still, it's not untrue to say that the larger problem is currently the lack of tags, as compared to inaccurate tagging. It is, however, more a matter of relative importance, or priority, than absolute importance. As detailed in my previous post, I've found a plethora of tagged pictures [of women] where they are not blonde, but the blonde tag is implemented. This is just one example of many I could detail if I had the memory or organization skills to have kept track of the last decade of browsing. Whether the product of traffic whoring, language barriers, laziness... In short, whether deliberate or not, this type of inaccuracy really cripples the ability to view content effectively in sites like this. In the end, I'm more likely to leave a site because of its interface than because of its content. Users leaving a community site doesn't always just mean losing traffic, either. It often means losing content creators and maintainers.
Written 10 months 3 weeks ago
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I'd also like to bring attention to this whole disaster:
football —» soccer ![]() football not soccer Highlighting issues with regional terminology, and not ignoring the fact that there's even a tag "soccer balls" which is applied to pictures without soccer balls in them, currently. Not only is it apparently hugely frustrating for the viewer, but apparently it's okay to just make a redundant tag. What's the stance on regional terminology? Do we default to the terminology in a certain region, or largely favored globally? For an interesting tidbit, see http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/5e/Soccer_football.png Sense of humor required beyond this point: To be fair, I would have done the same thing. Fuck soccer.
Written 10 months 2 weeks ago
"I would recommend implementing, when possible, a lightweight glossary or encyclopedia of the tags to explain to site users just what they are describing by using them."
I think that's a fantastic idea. Something to explain why it's not okay to tag a wallpaper featuring the ocean as when the tag exists, or to tag a picture as just because there's a piece of sky visible in the upper-right corner. Also, I'd just like to put it out there that there is a difference between the terms and . Monochrome should be applied to wallpapers that are one colour / feature shades of one colour for e.g. http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/2785 Grayscale literally refers to a wallpaper that exhibits varying shades of gray / has no colour e.g. http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/841945 Greyscale can also be distinguished from which should only apply to walls that are purely black and white e.g. http://wallbase.cc/wallpaper/1077141 A little education can go a long way!
While the basic idea is good, I think it will still translate into a spam magnet. Take the achievements feature, for example. The whole idea of achievements was implemented in good faith, but now we have a new 'generation' of users who are, for example, working the forums just to get achievements. People have started uploading upscaled/cropped/crap walls just to get achievements, making it a nightmare for admins and mods to handle.
Also, please post tag suggestions in their respective sticky threads, so as not to deviate too much from the topic in hand. While the basic idea is good, I think it will still translate into a spam magnet. Take the achievements feature, for example. The whole idea of achievements was implemented in good faith, but now we have a new 'generation' of users who are, for example, working the forums just to get achievements. People have started uploading upscaled/cropped/crap walls just to get achievements, making it a nightmare for admins and mods to handle. Good point about achievements. As for where, I've always found forum layouts to be a clusterfuck. I will try harder next time. Edit: I assume you mean "A New Tagging System" which is not what I mean. I meant improving on the shitty one in place, a bit at a time. Also note that if that is the proper location for this discussion, it should be labelled "Tagging Suggestions" not "A New Tagging System".
On investigation, I encountered the major forum category "Tagging" underneath Ideas... and Bugs. I believe this is what you meant, and that makes more sense.
Edit: Thanks for your help Lezboyd. With guidance from folks like you, I may one day reach the minimal competency level required for forum submission. May Dog help us all. ;)
Written 10 months 1 week ago
no but that could be great to add options in filter ( 1 to 3 tag) or when we are looking we could sort by number of tag if we could sort by number of tag we could see wallpaper with spam (30 tag or more ...) and with no tag
that could help to clean a little
Written 10 months 1 week ago
Ok I agree with the majority of the ideas above, I don't recon a system for searching wallpapers by number of tags will ever work as there is no direct correlation between number of tags and good tagging. I recon the idea of giving each tag a description would be good.
If every time you create a new tag you Have to write a reason for its creation and also what it is/ what would go under it. then it would force people to spend a little time in creating them and maybe stop spammers as it would be a waste of time if not done properly |

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